I have a feeling that with the climate (read humidity) up there, you wont need to fly them in order for them to require maintenance.
Originally Posted by JimWH
DefenseRussia to complete delivery of Su fighter jets to Indonesia by mid-September
The third Su-30MK2 jet was delivered in January.
07:31 06/09/2010© RIA Novosti. Maya Mashatina
Russia will deliver the last of six contracted Su fighter jets to Indonesia on September 7 and 16, an informed source said on Monday.
Under a $300 million contract, signed in 2007, Russia is to complete the delivery of three Su-30MK2 and three Su-27SKM fighters to Jakarta by the end of 2010 in addition to two Su-27SK and two Su-30MK fighters purchased in 2003.
The third Su-30MK2 jet was delivered in January.
Russia's An-124 transport plane will deliver two Su-27SKM planes to the air base in the city of Makassar in Indonesia's South Sulawesi province on Tuesday, the source said. The other Su-27SKM plane will be delivered to the same base five days later.
The planes will be sent to Indonesia earlier than scheduled following a request by the Indonesian military authorities, who would like the aircraft to take part in a military parade dedicated to Armed Forces Day on October 5, he added.
Indonesia earlier said it needed at least one squadron equipped with 16 Sukhoi fighters to replace part of the outdated fleet of U.S. F-16 fighters.
JAKARTA, September 6 (RIA Novosti)
From the Jakarta Globe............
Two Russian Aircraft Technicians Dead in Makassar
September 13, 2010
Two Russian nationals who were in Makassar to help the Indonesian Air Force assemble and operate recently purchased Sukhoi fighter jets have died of unknown causes, an Air Force officer said on Monday.
First Air Marshal Agus Supriatna, the commander of the Hasanuddin Air Base in Makassar, South Sulawesi, confirmed the deaths and said the cause had yet to be determined.
“It’s true that two Russians have died while on duty here in Makassar, but we can’t say anything yet about the cause of death because it’s still being investigated,” Agus said.
The victims, identified only as Alexander and Voronim, were members of a 12-man warranty team that has been at the base since Sept. 5.
Agus did not reveal the date of either death, but said suspicions were raised after Alexander failed to show up to the bus that was routinely took the team from their hotel to the air base.
A check in his room found him dead under his bed, the air base commander said, without providing further details.
Meanwhile, based on preliminary medical observations, Voronim is suspected to have died of a heart attack, Agus said.
He also said that another Russian member of the team, Viktor Sapanov, was being treated for an undisclosed illness at the Stella Maris Hospital in Makassar.
Agus said he had been in communication with the Air Force headquarters in Jakarta and the Russian Embassy over the two deaths. He said he had also sought a permit to have autopsies conducted on the bodies.
No permission has yet been granted for the autopsies.
Agus said the two bodies would be flown back to Russia directly from Hasanuddin Air Base, but did not say when.
Russia’s Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association, which produces Sukhoi planes, has sent three pilots and 37 technicians in two teams — a warranty team and an assembling team — to Makassar for a year following Indonesia’s purchase of three Su-27SKM and three Su-30MK2 fighter planes.
The aircraft, which have yet to be assembled, will be stationed in Makassar to reinforce the 11th Air Squadron, which is based there.
The first three planes were delivered in December 2008, while two arrived last Friday. The sixth is expected later this month.
Strange 'Drug' Kills 3 Russians in Indonesia
14 September 2010
Combined Reports, Moscow Times
Three Russian technicians who were in Indonesia to assemble fighter jets bought from Russia have died after suddenly falling ill, officials said Tuesday.
The men, identified as Sergei Voronin, Alexander Poltorak and Viktor Safonov, were part of a team of 12 engineers who arrived in the city of Makassar on the island of Sulawesi last week to work on Indonesia's Sukhoi fighter jet program.
Rear Marshal Agus Supriatna, a commander at Hasanuddin Air Base on Sulawesi, said two men were found in critical condition at the base's guesthouse on Monday and died shortly after being rushed to the hospital.
Hours later, a third technician died after complaining of breathing problems, dizziness and vomiting.
The death was caused by an unidentified drug, local police spokesman Iskandar Khanan said in televised remarks, Interfax reported. He did not elaborate.
Foul play was not suspected, Russian Embassy official Vladimir Pronin said, The Jakarta Globe newspaper reported.
The men could have been poisoned by moonshine alcohol, Gazeta.ru reported, citing an unidentified aviation expert who pointed out that legal alcohol is hard to obtain in the mostly Islamic Indonesia.
The Indonesian government has bought six Sukhoi fighter jets as part of a $300 million contract with Russia.
Two more Russian supersivors rushed to hospital
Andi Ajramurni, The Jakarta Post, Makassar | Tue, 09/14/2010 4:46 PM
Two Russian supervisors of Sukhoi SU-27 fighter jets were rushed to a hospital in Makassar on Tuesday due to a headache and a stomach ache, one day after their three colleagues died.
Sultan Hasanuddin Airbase commander Agus Supriatna said Tuesday the two Russians, identified as Andre Zaykay and Andre Spalov, were quickly admitted to the Wahidin Sudirohusodo Hospital to avoid more dead casualties.
"We don't want to take any risks. When they say they have a health problem, we bring them to hospital," Agus said.
They underwent several medical tests such as urine, blood, and heart tests.
"They suffered a headache and stomach ache as they lacked a sleep after their colleagues were dead," Wahidin Sudirohusodo Hospital doctor Khalik Saleh said separately.
Methanol Poisoning Suspected in Deaths of Russians at Airbase
Nivell Rayda & Rahmat | September 15, 2010
Sukhoi fighter jet technician Andrey Shavalov at Wahidin Sudirohusodo Hospital, where he and a colleague are being treated. (Antara Photo)
Ferkin Russians will drink anything as long as its alcohol...................
Methanol poisoning is the most likely cause of death of three Russian plane technicians in Makassar this week, police say.
The three were part of a 12-man team assigned to Hasanuddin Air Base in the South Sulawesi capital to help assemble recently purchased Sukhoi fighter jets for the Indonesian Air Force.
Alexander Poltorak Meksandre, 50, was found dead in his room on Monday after failing to show up for work.
Sergei Voronin and Korovov Viktor Saparov, both 55, died in hospital later that day.
Two other members of the Russian team are recovering in hospital after suffering similar symptoms.
“After conducting further examinations of the victims, we found methanol in their stomachs, kidneys and lungs,” Brig. Gen. Boediono, the head of the National Police’s forensics laboratory, said on Wednesday.
“This substance is very dangerous. A 0.1 percent concentration of the liquid is lethal, and we found 1 percent.”
He said the lab was now investigating how the Russians ended up ingesting the methanol. He said police had not ruled out foul play.
Methanol is commonly used in Indonesia in bootleg liquor to add punch, and reports of deaths and blindness from drinking the tainted moonshine are common.
Sr. Comr. Ferdinand Pasaribu, the chief of the Maros subprecinct police in Makassar, said several drinks had been recovered from the Russians’ rooms, including liquor bottles with Russian labels, cans of local Bintang beer, and a bottle of water spiked with an unknown substance.
Ferdinand would not speculate on whether the water contained methanol, saying only that all the evidence had been sent to the National Police lab.
Police are also testing 24 different medications belonging to the technicians. “It’s probably all legal and seems to have been brought in from Russia,” Boediono said.
“We don’t know what they are or what they are for because the labels are in Russian.” A team from the Russian Embassy in Jakarta arrived in Makassar on Tuesday to investigate the deaths.
Ferdinand said police had not yet spoken to any witnesses because they were still busy arranging to send the bodies back to Russia on a military transport plane.
Dr Chalid Saleh, from Wahidin Sudirohusodo Hospital in Makassar, said Andrey Shavalov, 51, and Andrey Zayestev, 48, were in stable condition.
“Their condition is improving, but Zayestev will need to undergo heart treatment,” Chalid told the Jakarta Globe on Wednesday.
“Their initial symptoms of headache and nausea are gone, but we’ll keep monitoring them over the next two to three days.”
Methanol is used in a variety of industrial applications, the most common being as a fuel additive. The substance is also found in engine-cleaning products and paints.
Indonesia to Purchase Six New Sukhoi Fighter Jets
September 17, 2010
Jakarta. Indonesia has decided to buy six more Russian-built Sukhoi fighters to expand the country’s existing fleet, a senior military official said on Friday.
Air Marshall Imam Sufaat, Air Force chief of staff, said the six extra planes were intended to form a squadron along with the 10 Sukhois the air force already has.
“Ten Sukhoi fighter jets are not adequate to give a deterrent effect given our vast airspace,” Sufaat was quoted as saying by the state-run Antara news agency.
He said Indonesia lagged behind neighboring Malaysia, which has 18 Sukhoi fighter jets, and Singapore with its 28 US-built F-15s.
President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has approved the plan, Sufaat said but added he was not sure about the timeframe of the purchase.
Indonesia has been buying Sukhoi fighter jets since 2003.
It shifted its purchases of military equipment away from the United States after Washington imposed an arms embargo on Jakarta in early 1990s.
The US government has lifted most of the ban in recent years.
During a recent visit to Jakarta, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates announced the resumption of cooperation with Indonesian special forces due to measures to improve the unit’s human rights record.
.............Yeah and they get another three Aircraft Techs from Russia & they're tee-total guys this time!
Indonesia Plans 180 Flankers Plus F-16s
Sep 30, 2010
By Bradley Perrett
BEIJING — Indonesia intends to acquire 180 Sukhoi Flankers and also to buy Lockheed Martin F-16s, Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro says, setting out plans for a massive expansion of the Southeast Asian country’s air combat force.
If Indonesia is serious about buying 180 Flankers, then Canberra will almost certainly fund the Royal Australian Air Force’s plan for 100 Lockheed Martin F-35s, says Andrew Davies, an analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. Until now, there was a significant chance that Australia would buy fewer F-35s.
The Sukhoi fleet will be built up by 2024, with 18 aircraft in each of 10 squadrons, Purnomo says. F-16s will replace BAE Systems Hawks, the government’s Antara news agency says in a report carrying Purnomo’s statement.
If the country does buy 180 Flankers and if it can operate them efficiently — two big ifs — then it will have transformed an air force that now has negligible combat capability.
Indonesia has been operating its current small force of Flankers, a mix of Su-27s and Su-30s, with poor levels of efficiency and availability. Analysts believe that its nine Northrop F-5s are in worse shape. Eight of 12 F-16As and Bs ordered in the 1980s are grounded.
The delivery of three Flankers this week took the force of that type to 10. The government previously said it would buy an additional six.
“To defend our nation’s sovereignty, we have set a target to procure 180 Sukhoi jet fighters to form 10 squadrons,” Purnomo reportedly says.
Besides Australia, the Indonesian buildup also would cause concerns in Singapore and Malaysia, according to Davies, although Leonard Sebastian, a Singapore-based specialist on Indonesia, thinks that Indonesia’s neighbors, including Australia, will not react too strongly.
The Indonesian air force is “pretty weak on human resources — not just the pilots but also the support personnel,” Sebastian says, doubting that the country could operate the Flanker force efficiently.
There is less doubt that it can buy them, he adds. Indonesia has been enjoying strong mineral prices stoked by Chinese demand. And building up the air force, rather than the army, would accord with the country’s policy of creating armed forces that are more technically advanced and professional.
Puh-lease, leave it out Son.............complete codswallop! They'd have to spend the WHOLE of their budget for Defence on these new planes................
The minister says the strength of the Indonesian economy is helping the government pay for its arms program.
Davies, who thinks Indonesia eventually will have a large number of Flankers but not as many as 180, points out that countries across Southeast Asia are focusing increasingly on advanced military technology.
Purnomo does not say how many F-16s Indonesia wants, but the country is operating six Hawk 100 trainers and 20 Hawk 200 light attack aircraft. Two years ago the government said it wanted to buy a squadron of F-16s between 2010 and 2014.
Any further F-16s may be secondhand. The defense ministry said in July that the U.S. was offering surplus fighters at low prices.
For imports of new weapons, Indonesia will insist on technology transfer and 40% of production work, Deputy Defense Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin says.
Indonesian military plans major procurement drive
By Siva Govindasamy
You don't see 180 Flankers in this budget do you...........!!!?
Indonesia plans to embark on a procurement drive over the next five years to modernise its armed forces, with the purchase of new aircraft for the air force and army high on the list of priorities.
Around 150 trillion Indonesian rupiah ($16.8 billion) is required over the next five years for the modernisation, says defence minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro. The government aims to provide two-thirds of this sum, with the remainder to be covered by loans, he adds.
Foremost on the shopping list will be new fighters, transport aircraft and utility and search and rescue helicopters, say industry sources. Upgrades to existing aircraft could also be on the cards. The challenge, however, is finding the budget for all of this, they add.
Additional Sukhoi fighters are a priority for the Indonesian air force, with chief of staff Air Chief Marshal Imam Sufaat saying that the country could buy another six Su-30s. Jakarta has taken delivery of all 10 Su-27 and Su-30MK/MK2 fighters that it ordered earlier this decade, with the last aircraft having arrived in mid-September.
"The existing squadron of Sukhois remains insufficient to give a deterrent effect given our vast territory," Imam told the Antara news agency, adding that the proposal to acquire more had been approved by Indonesian president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
These would complement the service's existing Northrop F-5s and Lockheed Martin Block 15 F-16A/Bs, the latter of which have also been considered for upgrade.
Jakarta has also given the nod to a joint venture between Indonesian Aerospace and Korea Aerospace Industries, paving the way for the two companies to co-operate on Seoul's KF-X fighter programme. The South Korean government will fund 60% of the costs, while KAI and Indonesia's defence ministry will contribute 20% each.
South Korea plans to procure around 200 of the fighters to replace its F-5s and Indonesia is expected to buy 50 for its air force. Jakarta hopes that its aircraft will be manufactured in-country by IAe, with the first examples to roll off the assembly line in 2020.
Indonesia has also been looking to upgrade some of its transport aircraft and buy either new or refurbished ones. There is growing pressure on the government to move on this, especially after high profile crashes involving a Lockheed C-130B and a Fokker F27 last year. The military also wants progress, given the necessity to move troops around the vast archipelago.
© Australian Department of Defence
Indonesia needs to modernise its current Hercules fleet
Eurocopter and IAe have also agreed to set up an assembly line for the Super Puma MkII in Bandung. Serial production is due to begin in 2011, with Indonesia viewed as a potentially lucrative market for helicopter manufacturers.
Apart from utility and transport helicopters, Jakarta is also keen on search and rescue and anti-submarine warfare helicopters, sources say. This will help the military to both look after the country's vast territory and be prepared for the natural disasters that strike the country occasionally.
Russia delivers three Mi-35M helicopters to Indonesia
Indonesia will continue its military-technical cooperation with Russia, the country's defense minister said on Wednesday.
Purnomo Yusgiantoro spoke after an official transfer of three Russian-made Mi-35P combat helicopters to Indonesia.
"We will continue our military-technical cooperation with Russia," the minister said, noting the high quality and reliability of Russian-made military equipment.
With the addition of the three Mi-35s, the fleet of Russian-made helicopters in service with the Indonesian Armed Forces now comprises five Mi-35 attack helicopters and six Mi-17V5 multipurpose helicopters.
Under a $300 million contract, signed in 2007, Russia recently completed the delivery of three Su-30MK2 and three Su-27SKM fighters to Jakarta in addition to two Su-27SK and two Su-30MK fighters purchased in 2003.
"Our current priority is to create a full-size squadron of Su fighter jets comprising 16 aircraft," Yusgiantoro said.
There are several other prospective areas of military-technical cooperation both countries were eager to pursue, Yusgiantoro said, without elaborating.
According to media reports, Russia and South Korea are competing in the second round of a tender for the supply of two submarines to Indonesia.
Jakarta became one of Russia's main arms customers in 1999 when the United States tightened an embargo on arms sales to the country over alleged human rights violations.
JAKARTA, October 20 (RIA Novosti)