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    Indonesia plans to upgrade its T-50i

    Indonesian Air Force chief Air Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto has spoken about the need to upgrade its KAI T-50i advanced jet trainers.

    By Photo by KAI (2013) [CC BY 2.0], via Wikimedia Commons

    “We will upgrade T-50 in the near future. That’s because there are still some deficiencies in the fighter aircraft,” Tjahjanto was quoted as saying.

    An area that Indonesia plans to improve is the jet’s radar so that it can better perform homeland air defense duties.

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    Why didn't you just buy F/A-50 then? Oh that's right, no cash here... Cash? No...

    But they'll be buying full squadrons of SU-35 of course...

    In a low speed post-merge manoeuvring fight, with a high off-boresight 4th generation missile and Helmet Mounted Display, the Super Hornet will be a very difficult opponent for any current Russian fighter, even the Su-27/30

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADMk2 View Post
    Why didn't you just buy F/A-50 then? Oh that's right, no cash here... Cash? No...

    But they'll be buying full squadrons of SU-35 of course...

    To be fair, they'll be buying the Su-35's without any armaments so they will save money there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARH v.4.0 View Post
    To be fair, they'll be buying the Su-35's without any armaments so they will save money there...
    What? You mean the 10x AMRAAM's they bought for their F-16 fleet of 42 aircraft, won't suffice across even more fighter aircraft??? But I read that Snafu Soloman considers Indonesia to have surpassed Australia in military strength... Lol
    In a low speed post-merge manoeuvring fight, with a high off-boresight 4th generation missile and Helmet Mounted Display, the Super Hornet will be a very difficult opponent for any current Russian fighter, even the Su-27/30

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    Indonesian Air Force Struggling To Acquire A400Ms, AW101s

    Mar 21, 2017

    Marhalim Abas | Aviation Week & Space Technology

    More than most militaries, Indonesia’s needs domestic airlift. The country, extending 5,120 km (3,180 mi.) from east to west and 1,760 km from north to south, is divided among 17,000 islands. If the air force’s plans come off, its fixed- and rotary-wing transportation units will step up to significantly larger sizes through the introduction of Leonardo AW101 helicopters and Airbus A400M airlifters.

    Funding for the A400M and especially the AW101 remain problematic, however. The government is bound by law to choose the Airbus H225M helicopter, which is partly manufactured by*state-owned Indonesian Aerospace. The 2012 Defense Law requires the armed services to use indigenous defense and security tools whenever available.

    Indonesian Air Force Transport Aircraft
    • The service has three helicopter squadrons with nothing larger than the H225M
    • The service has five squadrons of C-130s and lighter aircraft, with another squadron forming with secondhand Hercules
    • AW101s, if approved, would form a fourth helicopter squadron
    • A400Ms would replace old C-130As and C-130Bs

    The air force operates two H225Ms, with another four on order from a contract placed in 2014. Airbus assembles Indonesia’s H225Ms in France, after which Indonesian Aerospace fits them out at Bandung in West Java. The helicopters are equipped for troop transportation, combat search and rescue and utility use.

    An intended follow-up order of 10 H225Ms to complete a squadron has not been placed. In the meantime, the air force operates 19 older Pumas and Super Pumas.

    As for the A400M, allocation of some production work to Indonesian Aerospace could satisfy the 2012 law. But an imminent order for at least five aircraft, the probable quantity, is unlikely, even though funding was reportedly approved by a parliamentary committee. President Joko Widodo has said A400Ms may not be ordered until the result of investigations into the crash of one in 2015 is available. It is not known when the final report will be ready.

    The defense ministry’s secretary general, Vice Adm. Widodo, and air force chief Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto toured a British A400M Atlas that stopped in Jakarta on March 5.

    The armed forces’ 2010-24 strategic plan calls for creation of a sixth squadron of transport airplanes and a fourth of transport helicopters. The number of aircraft per squadron is supposed to be 16 but in practice is usually lower.

    The military uses such aircraft to ferry passengers and supplies around the sprawling archipelago. Former Defense Minister Juwono Sudarsono, who produced the strategic plan, says spending should focus on support systems, including transportation equipment. Only after the country has solved its internal transportation problems should it focus on strike capability, he said in September 2014.

    This Royal Air Force A400M Atlas visited Jakarta in March. It is pictured here on an earlier stop in New Zealand. Credit: Adrian Schofield/AW&ST

    The air force has two transport squadrons equipped with 17 Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules and three with 25 Airbus light transporters—CN-212s, CN-235s and C295s. A third C-130 squadron should be stood up once the nine ex-Australian Hercules agreed to in 2012-13 are delivered. Australia donated four of the Hercules and sold the other five, with spares and flight simulator, at a discount. One crashed on Dec. 18.

    If the A400M order is finalized, it will enable the air force to slowly phase out C-130A and C-130B Hercules, some of which have been in service since the early 1960s. In replacing those aircraft, Indonesia could return to Airbus for more Atlases, but an alternative would be to buy C-130Js, the air force’s preferred solution, according to industry sources.

    The AW101 would equip the fourth helicopter squadron. The air force says the AW101 is more suitable than the Airbus types it has in service, including the H225M.

    In early February, a single AW101 was delivered to Halim Perdanakusuma airbase in Jakarta. The delivery sparked a controversy as to whether the air force had broken the law in contracting for the helicopter. An earlier order for three VIP AW101s was canceled on the grounds of excessive cost.

    Tjahjanto defends the latest order and says five more AW101s are needed. “The air force has seven air bases that require a heavy-lift helicopter with search-and-rescue capabilities,” he says. “Currently, two of the air bases are only equipped with EC120B Colibri helicopters for search and rescue.” The Airbus EC120B is a single-engine light helicopter.

    The AW101 has a maximum weight of 14.5 metric tons, compared with 11.2 metric tons for the H225M and 1.72 metric tons for the EC120B, also an Airbus product.

    It is still far from certain that the delivered AW101 will be inducted into the air force, even though the service has cleared itself of any wrongdoing in the purchase. The biggest obstacle is the 2012 law and the availability of the H225M as an alternative with local content.

    One other possibility for the air force, not so far discussed, would be to follow the army in choosing the Boeing CH-47F Chinook as its heaviest helicopter. The army is waiting for government approval to order between four and 10 Chinooks.

    With a gross weight of 22.7 metric tons, the Chinook dwarfs the AW101 and H225M. It could carry up to 55 soldiers or 10.9 metric tons of cargo. It would be more expensive but, crucially, Indonesian Aerospace could not claim to have a comparable product.

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    Hill AFB Regenerates F-16s for Indonesian Air Force

    (Source: US Air Force; issued March 17, 2017)

    The United States in mid-March delivered four more refurbished and upgraded F-16C/D fighters to Indonesia, which has 24 on order. The final six are due to be delivered later this year. (USAF photo)

    HILL AFB, Utah --- The fifth of six "ferry cells" to deliver F-16 Fighting Falcon aircraft from the Ogden Air Logistics Complex to the Indonesian Air Force departed Hill AFB earlier this week.

    The ferry cell comprised of four aircraft – three C-models (single-seat) and one D-model (dual-seat) – and departed the base March 14 on a four-day transoceanic flight and marked the completion of another major milestone for F-16 Indonesia Regeneration Program.

    The program, managed by F-16 System Program Office International Branch Program Office located at Hill, is the result of a Foreign Military Sales deal to deliver 24 Block-25 variant F-16s to Indonesia by the end of this year.

    The F-16 aircraft involved were originally flown by the U.S. Air Force and Air National Guard units, but were de-commissioned and stored for several years at the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group open-air storage area located at Davis-Monthan AFB, Ariz.

    Each jet amassed approximately 5,000 training and combat hours before being de-commissioned.

    In preparation for regeneration, each aircraft was carefully dismantled, prepared, and shipped in crates 800 miles north of Davis-Monthan to Hill AFB.

    The Ogden ALC’s 573rd Aircraft Maintenance Squadron is responsible for the restoration and began its work in 2013.

    Ogden ALC officials said the effort has resulted in more than 17,000 direct labor hours on the production floor and in component maintenance shops, making this one of the most complex production efforts in the F-16 depot.

    Each aircraft has received a myriad of new and upgraded components to include a new set of wings, horizontal stabilizers, and landing gear, along with numerous structural and avionics capability enhancements.

    Each F-16 is subjected to a series of rigorous flight tests once the modifications are completed prior to delivering the jets to Indonesia.

    This latest ferry cell brings the total number of F-16s delivered to Indonesia to 18.

    The final six aircraft are currently in various stages of regeneration and modification, and are scheduled to be delivered to the Indonesian Air Force later this year.


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