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buglerbilly
26-07-10, 07:41 PM
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Maritime Helo Movement
Posted by Robert Wall at 7/26/2010 9:54 AM CDT
The Netherlands has taken delivery of its second NFH90 helicopter, the long-delayed maritime derivative of the NH90. The second of the rotorcraft was handed over last week. The Dutch military is the lead customer, although France also has one of the rotorcraft.
In so doing, the NFH90 appears to have yielded the unwelcome title of "troubled maritime helicopter program" to the Canadian CH-148 Cyclone.
The Canadian government says it has finally come to contractual terms with Sikorsky over the second re-baselining of the project. The contractor is still to hand over six CH-148s in an interim configuration -- as decided in 2008 when the program was first changed dramatically -- but now there is an acknowledgement that the interims will be more interim than first thought. Software development delays mean the sensor fusion elements will not be ready.
Canada still wants to get its first fully compliant CH-148s in mid-2012, with the first six in the interim standard to be upgraded to the full configuration by the end of 2013.
buglerbilly
27-07-10, 04:30 AM
Canada, Sikorsky Spell Out CH-148 Future
Jul 26, 2010
By Robert Wall wall@aviationweek.com
LONDON
The Canadian government and Sikorsky have come to a contractual agreement on how to handle the program changes on the CH-148 Cycle maritime helicopter program, which has suffered delays owing to software development problems.
The key issue, since late last year, has been the recognition that helicopters due for delivery this year in an interim standard would not meet the anticipated performance level. The interim helicopters will still be delivered by November, but will not feature a fully compliant mission system software. The goal remains to start delivery of helicopters that fully meet requirements in 2012.
As part of the contract changes, Sikorsky is providing another $80 million in “industrial and regional benefits” and would also pay royalties to Canada on export versions. Damage claims by the government are being set aside, but penalties would be reinstated if the November 2010 milestone for the interim systems is not met or the June 2012 deadline for the start of delivery of fully complaint CH-148s. Other changes address support, including extending in-service support of the C-148 fleet to March 2028.
Six interim helicopters are to be handed over to the Canadian government to support training and initial operational test and evaluation. Most of the sensors will be functional, but not, yet, fully integrated. Other shortfalls include the ability to exchange tactical data, a 21 min. flight endurance, and ability to operate on one engine at high temperatures.
The six helos in that standard are to be upgraded to the full operational standard by December 2013 for a fleet of 28 CH-148s. Sea King helos will continue to be operated until the replacement is fielded.
The November 2004 CH-148 contract called for the first helo to be handed over in early 2009. The program was rebaselined the first time in late 2008, when the interim configuration concept emerged.
Illustration: Sikorsky
Unicorn
27-07-10, 12:52 PM
other shortfalls include the ability to exchange tactical data, a 21 min. Flight endurance, and ability to operate on one engine at high temperatures.
wtf!?!
Unicorn
That must be a typo, or perhaps 21 minutes on one engine in high temperatures?
buglerbilly
27-07-10, 11:10 PM
Gentlemen,
I think you'll find the 21 minute duration relates to complete loss of Oil...............the ability to operate with one engine in high temps is separate to this.
buglerbilly
29-07-10, 03:43 AM
DATE:28/07/10
SOURCE:Flight International
Sikorsky accepts concessions to Canada after new CH-148 delays
By Stephen Trimble
The Canadian government has extracted new concessions worth hundreds of millions of dollars from Sikorsky, after revealing a new delay for its C$5 billion ($4.84 billion) order for 28 CH-148 Cyclones.
Six interim CH-148 maritime helicopters scheduled for delivery in November will lack operational software, maximum engine power, full endurance and automated datalinks, the Department of National Defence says in a background document released on 26 July.
The interim Cyclone fleet - a maritime variant of the H-92 - is itself a legacy of a previous delay. Under its original contract signed in 2004, Sikorsky was supposed to deliver the first CH-148 five years later. But Ottawa agreed in December 2008 to accept six interim helicopters in November 2010.
As a result of the latest delay, the DND has agreed to accept the six interim helicopters with limited capabilities to begin training operations. The remaining 22 aircraft will start arriving in June 2012 with full capability, it says, with the interim examples to be retrofitted and returned to service by December 2013.
In return, Sikorsky has agreed to accept several major concessions. The DND says it has restructured the milestone payment schedule, which reportedly involves freezing C$250 million previously owed to Sikorsky before the new delays were announced.
Sikorsky also has withdrawn claims believed to be valued at up to C$100 million in an arbitration process about previous contract changes, the DND says.
Canadian industry, meanwhile, will receive another C$80 million in investments by Sikorsky, and the government in Ottawa could receive royalties worth more than C$30 million on future sales of maritime helicopters by the company.
With full deliveries delayed by four years, Ottawa also shifted its 20-year in-service support contract, which will now end in 202
Sikorsky has not commented on the details of the new agreement, but says it supports the new terms. "We believe it is equitable to both the Canadian government and to Sikorsky," it says.
buglerbilly
16-09-10, 05:33 AM
Denmark Short-Lists Five Naval Helicopters
By GERARD O'DWYER
Published: 15 Sep 2010 11:51
AW101 being in there is a bit of a surprise simply due to size BUT the UK uses them on Type 23's so...........
HELSINKI - The Danish Defense Acquisition and Logistics Organization (DALO) has short-listed five European and U.S. candidates for the Danish Navy's Maritime Helicopter Replacement Program (MHRP).
The five NATO-compatible contenders include the AgustaWestland AW101, AgustaWestland Lynx Wildcat, NH Industries NH90, Sikorsky H-92 and the U.S. Navy's Sikorsky MH-60R Seahawk.
DALO officials have said they prefer helicopters that are already in use or moving towards production, suggesting the MHRP is leaning towards an off-the-shelf purchase of a versatile ship-based helicopter for national defense and international operations.
The MH-60R is seen as having a marginally lower project risk than its rival candidates, and has been mentioned in Danish military circles as having a "competitive unit price."
By contrast, while the NH90 and the Sikorsky H-92 are highly rated in DALO's evaluations, both aircraft have yet to see a deployment, let alone combat.
AgustaWestland's AW101 also is highly rated, although there are fears the helicopter may be too big for some Danish Navy ships.
A final decision on the type selection and procurement process is not expected for some months yet. The candidate helicopters are continuing to undergo technical and operational evaluations. The new aircraft will replace the Danish Navy's aging Lynx helicopters.
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