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buglerbilly
22-01-10, 09:43 AM
Beretta’s new home-defense breacher

January 18th, 2010 | Posted by Matthew Cox



How can you have a home-defense shotgun without a door-breaching accessory? Well if your into that, Beretta’s new Tx4 Storm semi-automatic shotgun may be just what you need. The Tx4 is chambered for 2 ¾ or 3-inch magnum 12-gauge shells. It holds five in the tube and one in the chamber. The 18-inch barrel has a new Optima Bore HP Choke System that accepts a nasty, six-point breaching attachment that can double as a face jabber in close quarter situations.

The soft rubber coating on the stock and fore-end make it easy to grip. The gas-operated Tx4 handles easily even in rapid-fire mode. It also has a Picatinny rail for attaching sights or optics. The new Tx4 retails for about $1,450.

buglerbilly
22-01-10, 09:53 AM
January 20, 2010

SHOT Show 2010: Winchester Introduces PDX1 Shotshells



Winchester Ammunition introduced the Supreme Elite PDX1 shotshells in 410 and 12 gauge for personal defense at SHOT Show 2010 in Las Vegas.

"Both shotshell loads achieved excellent results in our test facility, and we are extremely excited to offer them to our customers," said Brett Flaugher, Winchester Ammunition's vice president of domestic and international marketing and sales."

The PDX1 in 410 gauge features a black hull and black oxide high-base head and combines three plated Defense Disc projectiles and 12 pellets of plated BB shot. The shells are designed for use in the Taurus Judge and will be available to the public in February, according to the company.

The 12-gauge Supreme Elite PDX1 also features a black hull, black oxide high-base head and three pellets of Grex-buffered 00-plated buckshot nested on top of a 1-ounce rifled slug. The result is a tight-patterning personal defense load. The slug/buckshot combination will be available to the public in March.

buglerbilly
23-01-10, 12:32 PM
SRM Arms Rotary-Mag, Semi-Auto Shotgun



8, 12, and 16 round magazine capacity depending on the length of the shotgun or where the front magazine latch is located (on longer guns)



Longer guns can use smaller magazines if front latch is moved. Simple front latch holds mags in place.



This innovative design allows the shooter to choose which type of ammo they want to use. Can be set up for right or left handed operation

buglerbilly
23-01-10, 01:13 PM
Serbu Firearms Home of the BFG-50 and SUPER-SHORTY

The SUPER-SHORTY is based on a Mossberg Maverick (also available on Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 at additional cost) 12-gauge shotgun which came from the factory with a pistol grip. Because of this, the SUPER-SHORTY is considered an AOW (Any Other Weapon) and can be transferred with a $5 stamp! The gun holds two 2-3/4" or 3" shells in the magazine, plus one in the chamber. The 16.5" overall length, 6.5" barrel and spring-locked foregrip, which pivots out of the way when not in use, make for a very compact package.

As far as we know, this is the shortest 12-gauge pump shotgun available. All parts for the SUPER-SHORTY are made in-house on our own CNC machinery using materials ideally suited to the task. All welds are done by the TIG process, and the manganese phosphate finish is MIL-spec. The SUPER-SHORTY is currently being used by various law enforcement agencies and military units worldwide. If you like the idea of concealed carry with a 12-gauge, or like a lot of "bang" in a small package, or just want the most compact breaching weapon available, then this is the gun for you. You won't find a better made AOW pump shotgun than the SUPER-SHORTY!

buglerbilly
23-01-10, 01:16 PM
Another company just a few booths down from Serbu offering their version of the super shorty and a few other short shotguns and parts

ADMk2
25-01-10, 03:06 PM
Or as most likely, "if you absolutely need the shortest possible shotgun to rob your local liquor store, this is the gun for you..."

buglerbilly
20-05-10, 01:54 AM
Tactical Tailor 12rd Shotgun Pouch

May 19th, 2010 | Product Announcement | Posted by Stickman

http://www.tacticaltailor.com/index.aspx

Tactical Tailor has a new shotgun pouch out, and its setup for 12 rounds of fun. These pouches are currently available in ACU, Coyote Brown, and Black. The pouches are a two layered setup, with 6 rounds on the outside, and an additional 6 on the interior which are accessed through a dual zipper. The elastic loops are nice and tight, which should eliminate losing rounds if you are knocking into things or are stuck humping a shotgun for days on end.



We recently had a chance to use these with some shotgun work, and there are a few key points that I liked. First, I liked the overall layout. The pouch is small, almost like a little pack, and it wouldn’t be hard to see having several extras setup so that you could have them waiting and ready to go. Guys could even throw these in a pocket to supplement their loadout or mount them on a pack, its a much better option than loose shells spinning around the floor of your Hummer. A friend who ran PSD missions commented that the pouch could stay on a vest or carrier and be used as a small admin pouch when shotgun rounds weren’t required.

I also like the tightness of the loops and overall quality. I’ve carried a shotgun and had rounds falling out because of garbage gear. I hate having to worry about equipment issues when working real world ops. If I have to check and recheck everything to make sure I’m not losing ammo off myself, its time for something better, and in my mind, this would have been a better way to do things. Lastly, I think the separation between the interior and exterior pouches allows for carrying of two types of ammunition. I know that there are training issues with this, and there are guys who will say to never mix shotgun ammo, but one of the greatest benefits of the shotgun in my mind is the flexibility of the system. A physical barrier between ammo types is about as good as its going to get for not mixing breaching loads with 00 buck.

Maybe one of the reasons I like this pouch so much is that I’ve been stuck with some absolute junk on missions before, but even if I hadn’t, it would be hard not to like these. Hit up Tactical Tailor for more information. You will probably see these pouches again as we continue to move forward on the

http://www.tacticaltailor.com/shotgun12rdpouch.aspx

buglerbilly
09-08-10, 05:50 AM
From Strike-Hold blog.........

Kushnapup bullpup stock for Saiga 12 shotguns

I’ve seen a few after-market bullpup stocks come and go over the years, and most of the ones I’ve seen for AK-type weapons have been pretty fugly.

So, when I saw this one on The Firearm Blog yesterday I was well impressed. In fact, I found it hard to believe its an after-market stock for Saiga shotguns – you’d be forgiven for thinking it was a new type of combat shotgun altogether. But it is in fact the GenII version of Kushnapup’s kit stock made exclusively for the Saiga 12-guage semi-auto shotgun.







Full information can be found at www.kushnapup.com, and they’re now taking pre-orders at the special price of $200 (according to info on The Firearm Blog, the price will increase to $450 once the pre-orders have closed).

go from this:





And they have one of the most crass videos to go with this Bullpup mod..........screams Gang-banger to me..........:cuckoo

buglerbilly
29-09-10, 02:44 AM
From Gearscout..........



Art of the Dynamic Shotgun Trailer – Magpul Dynamics

September 28th, 2010 | Product Announcement | Posted by Stickman

“I don’t use a pump to scare somebody, I use it to shoot somebody”

With quotes like this from Travis Haley and Chris Costa, you can tell this isn’t going to be a video in how to skeet shoot with your $12,000 over and under. It looks like Magpul Dynamics is going to have another solid training video coming out, and for those of us who carry a shotgun and know its flexibility, this video might stir up some interest in the “non-believers” and score us some more training time and increase our budget. Hey, I can dream…

buglerbilly
12-11-10, 10:50 AM
From The Firearm Blog.......Here's an unusual one, a revolver combat shotgun, Russian-made..........don't really see any practical combat use for this style/type.............

Photos of the MTs-255 Tactical Revolver Shotgun

Russian mil-blogger Vitaly Kuzmin was kind enough to email me photos of the MTs-255 Tactical Revolver Shotgun. I blogged about the MTs-255 last year but was only able to find photos of its hunting counterpart. The Tactical model is really one bad-ass shotgun.


Photo © Vitaly Kuzmin


Photo © Vitaly Kuzmin


Photo © Vitaly Kuzmin


Photo © Vitaly Kuzmin


Photo © Vitaly Kuzmin

This is the fully Civvie version............




The MTs-255 tactical shotgun is a 5-shot weapon and is designed around the revolver principle. The cartridge cylinder swings out to the left for loading/unloading. It can be fired either double-action (a long pull of the trigger both cocks and fires the weapon) or the hammer can be manually cocked for single-action firing. A heavy duty, single-strut metal side-folding stock is fitted, which pivots around a conventional style revolver pistol-grip and lies alongside the right side of the gun when in the folded position. Sights are described as 'open', but a length of Picatinny-type sight rail is fitted to the top of the receiver for the mounting of other sighting devices. The butt-plate, pistol-grip and fore-end are all constructed of high-impact polymer for durability and corrosion resistance.

buglerbilly
05-01-11, 01:27 AM
This is different..........!!! :eek3





http://www.xrailbyrci.com/

Bring your own backup with the XRAIL

January 4th, 2011 | Product Announcement | Posted by Rob Curtis

XRAIL is a shotgun magazine extension that supplies your shotgun with 23+1 rounds using a rotating chamber system that works a bit like a revolver. As each tube is emptied, the housing rotates automatically to bring a fresh magazine into the feed cycle.

The XRAIL, (Xtreme Roth Auto Indexing Loader) comes in two main configurations; full and compact. The full is 33 oz. and the compact is 24 oz. The system works on Remington, Benelli, FNH, Mossberg and Winchester tactical shotguns through the use of a separate adapter for each manufacturers action. The systems cost from $650 to $750 depending on gun and configuration.

Uses:

•crowd control (with non-lethal rounds)
•inciting a riot (see above)
•ending a riot (see above)
•3-gun competition
•endless trap/skeet rounds (work that action!!)
•speed breaching an apartment building
•home defense (of course!)

Lots of videos and further details at the link above...............

buglerbilly
05-01-11, 12:05 PM
Now THIS really does look interesting for a Combat Shotgun, 15+1 rounds and a short, bullpup design...............via Soldier Systems



Keltec KSG 14-Shot 12 Gauge Bullpup Shotgun

January 5th, 2011

It’s pump-action, civilian legal, holds 14+1 rounds, loads and ejects from the bottom, and sports an overall length of 26.5″ with an 18″ barrel. It’ll be available sometime in 2011 but it doesn’t have an MSRP yet. I’ll post more info as I find it.

buglerbilly
05-01-11, 12:18 PM
Size comparison..................

ADMk2
05-01-11, 03:06 PM
Alright, that does it Bug. I will admit that I NOW have a new favourite shotgun. Happy?

:)

buglerbilly
06-01-11, 12:35 AM
She's a ripper that's fer sure! :thumbsup

Draws obvious comparisons to the SA Neostead shotgun, similar design, 2 rounds less BUT never really sold in reasonable numbers............they should have licenced it to a USA-based company and they might have sold large numbers?

buglerbilly
07-01-11, 01:25 PM
A bit more info, ref the comparison with the Neostead...............from the Firearm Blog.........


This shotgun has been compared to the South African NEOSTEAD 2000 Bullpup Shotgun.

A big difference is that the NEOSTEAD could be set to feed alternating between both the magazines.

The KSG can only set to feed from the right or the left. Once the magazine is empty, the operator must use a manual switch to select the other magazine.

This may appear at first glance to be disadvantage but for many people who live in areas where shotgun magazine capacity is limited by law, this feature, or lack of feature as the case may be, could allow them to legally possess the KSG.

[The last comment applies to parts of the USA only..........Aussie Law would still class this as a LEO/Military weapon only I think?]

buglerbilly
08-01-11, 08:09 AM
The store price is going to be around $650

Read more: http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=243784&start=40#ixzz1AQQ2XiVK

IF buying for LEO/Mil type needs expect USD$400-500 dependant on quantities procured......

buglerbilly
08-01-11, 08:18 AM
And another one from Turkish Scandium Arms (No, I hadn't heard of them either.........)...........



The NEW Urban Tactical Pump Action Shotgun 15 rounds (UTS-15)

The first modern combat shotgun was the Model 97 Winchester pump-action shotgun issued to American troops during WWI. The first combat shotgun was developed by modifying a sporting shotgun from the Winchester commercial product line by cutting the barrel length back to 18,” extending the magazine tube to hold a total of 7 rounds and adding a sheet metal heat deflector on top of the barrel and an attachment to accept a bayonet. From this first combat shotgun to the current generation of combat shotguns used by police and military, there have been no significant improvements to the basic design. That is until the development of the UTS-15 urban tactical shotgun.

The current combat shotguns on the market have limitations and design issues that needed to be addressed. Specifically, all of the combat shotguns currently in service carry only 7 or 8 rounds housed in a magazine tube running the full-length under the barrel. This magazine design requires cartridges to be loaded manually and thus slowly one shell at a time. Furthermore, the conventional shotgun design with its long magazine tube dictates a substantial overall length which can not be further shortened without sacrificing magazine capacity.

Consequently, the current generation of combat shotguns are too long and awkward, have insufficient magazine capacity and are too slow to reload to function well in the close quarters, house-to-house fighting of the urban battlefield. In addition, within the urban environment for the military, police and home protesting, most armed encounters occur at night when conventional sights are difficult if not impossible to use. Consequently, current combat shotguns all feature Picatenny rails for the mounting of flash lights or laser sights to aid sighting in night combat.

The UTS-15 addresses all of the shortcomings of the former and current combat shotguns by breaking away from the tradition shotgun paradigm. The UTS-15 is a totally new, patented firearms design that employs a revolutionary double magazine top-feed system and light weight carbon fiber and polymers construction. The end result is a combat shotgun that holds 15 rounds, is only 71 centimeters long, weighs approximately 3 kilos and has a built in point-and-shot spotlight and laser night sight. With compressible magazine springs and convenient top loading magazine ports the UTS-15 is also the fastest loading shotgun ever designed. The pump action design provides reliable cycling for all 2.75” and 3” 12 ga. shotgun loads, including low powered non-lethal and crowd control ammunition. In crowd control application the menacing profile of the UTS-15 provides an additional intimidation factor during initial confrontation. In police application the UTS-15 is short enough to be easily manipulated inside a police cruiser and brought into action as fast as a handgun.

For military applications the UTS-15 with it’s built in laser sight and point-and-shoot night sight can be quickly and accurately employed for door breaching and room clearing inside any building. For home defense the UTS-15 is simple to use and lightweight enough to be quickly brought to bear by any member of the family in an emergency situation. The UTS-15 is not only faster, lighter and easier to use than any other combat shotgun the ultra simple design allows the gun to be field stripped in approximately 45 seconds with no special training and without the use of tools.

buglerbilly
08-01-11, 08:23 AM
Video here............doesn't show much apart from the fact the guy firing doesn't know how to handle the gun.....................

http://www.utasturk.com/videos.html

Riđđu
08-01-11, 12:00 PM
[The last comment applies to parts of the USA only..........Aussie Law would still class this as a LEO/Military weapon only I think?]

Ah America, land of the free. I have this feeling that you have to be a gun collector to get a license for that and an urgent need to get a new hunting weapon to shoot bunnies doesn´t qualify.

Don´t know about Australia but there was this 840mm/400mm rule to limit shotgun lengths in Europe.

Deks
08-01-11, 03:49 PM
A big difference is that the NEOSTEAD could be set to feed alternating between both the magazines.

The KSG can only set to feed from the right or the left. Once the magazine is empty, the operator must use a manual switch to select the other magazine.

Dual ammunition types, or is that asking for trouble ?

buglerbilly
09-01-11, 01:20 AM
Nope, the whole point with a dual ammo feed gun like this is that you can easily switch manually between mags, say, slugs and 00 steel gauge to suit the tactical circumstances..............

buglerbilly
10-01-11, 01:13 PM
The KSG field-stripped..........

buglerbilly
12-01-11, 11:54 AM
Yeah babay..........

KelTecWeapons | January 10, 2011

Here's a quick video of some KSG test firing footage to hold you over for the upcoming KSG review video which will cover everything you need to know!

The KSG is a dual fed bull-pup pump action shotgun. It has two tubular magazines that hold 7 rounds each that you must manually switch between with a selector switch. Casings eject downwards.

Visit http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaB... for more info!

buglerbilly
19-01-11, 10:21 AM
Hmmmm..............from M.J.Mollenhour.............



The Mossberg Chainsaw Pump Shotgun

01/18/2011 @ 6:09pm

For those of you who doubt its existence and suspected it was a joke, here are a photo and a very short video proving that it is for real at MSRP around $350.

buglerbilly
23-01-11, 05:01 AM
Series of Vids of the KelTec KSG Shotgun.......................

General Intro



Dismantling the gun..........



Putting it back together again.............




First-time firing of pre-production KSG by officers at Lakewood Police Department. They are not used to the manual of arms, but you can see how the gun works and note the negligible muzzle rise on recoil. Ammunition is a mix of 00 buckshot and slugs. See KelTecWeapons.com and KTOG.org for more information about this firearm.

buglerbilly
24-01-11, 07:45 AM
Another Newbie......images via Ken Lunde's excellent pic review of what's new at SHOT Show 2011..............

http://lundestudio.com/2011SHOTShow/

Akdal Arms

The MKA-1919 12-gauge shotgun, which is AR15-ish and uses a five-round magazine, caught my attention:





I still like the KelTec KSG more............here's his pics of the tacticool version of the KSG....................

Here is the two-tone (black and OD) version:







The photo below is of the bottom ejection port, which shows the three-position magazine tube selector which is at its forward edge:



More great pics of knives and guns at the link above AND he properly tags them unlike 90% of the rest of the people............

Jezza
26-01-11, 09:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c

buglerbilly
26-01-11, 12:46 PM
The AA-12 is pretty good BUT its damn bulky.........the drums are huge......... as a LEO weapon I'd still go the KSG route.........

buglerbilly
18-02-11, 10:46 AM
Via the Firearm Blog...............it looks like it has all the ergo's of a brick shithouse, sideways!

Red Jacket Firearms: AR-15 Mounted Saiga-12 Shotgun

Red Jacket Firearms, the company featured in the Discovery reality TV series Sons of Guns, manufacture a Saiga-12 shotgun that can be mounted on an AR-15's full length picatinny rail. They are selling it for $1889. FMD! That's a cost and a half...........ridiculous! But no doubt some Cafe Cowboys will want one...............





Presumably this gun is classified as an AOW.

[Hat Tip: Casatic]

McDethWivFries
19-02-11, 02:43 AM
That KSG looks awesome, nice short formfactor thanks to the bp design. Suppose this thing would also be illegal in Aus...

buglerbilly
19-02-11, 03:01 AM
The ammo capacity makes it illegal.............you also would find it VERY difficult to import and would most probably have to go through a Dealer. I'd suggest that neither the Police nor Customs would be too happy about this gun being imported..............well, they might be happy if it was for them! :doh

ADMk2
20-02-11, 09:04 AM
That KSG looks awesome, nice short formfactor thanks to the bp design. Suppose this thing would also be illegal in Aus...

They are not illegal. You could acquire one if you had the correct category of weapons licence. Unfortunately the needed category of weapons licence (Category D) to obtain a pump action shotgun with a magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds since 1996 is extremely difficult to obtain...

It would also not be impossible to import one of these weapons into Australia, but you would need to do it through an authorised firearms dealer...

For any weapons licence anywhere in Australia you need what is known as "genuine reason" to demonstrate to the authorities as to why you would need it. Because something "looks awesome" is no longer considered genuine reason unfortunately...

Here is a Queensland licence application for perusal:

http://www.police.qld.gov.au/Resources/Internet/programs/weaponsLicensing/documents/Form%201%20App%20for%20Licence.pdf


:)

McDethWivFries
20-02-11, 11:04 AM
Yeah i know what you mean, have a friend who has 5rnd semi-auto shotty. They can keep theirs because they have a large number of foxes on their property. Father inlaw has a property on the emu proof fence, there are always large numbers of emus there, but from what i understand you need a permit to shoot emus . . .

ADMk2
20-02-11, 02:11 PM
Nah you don't need a permit, you just need to lead em a bit...

;)

buglerbilly
04-03-11, 12:02 PM
Nice little video of the NEOSTEAD shottie in action showing the different slide-forward action. I still think this is counter-intuitive............

buglerbilly
11-03-11, 01:47 AM
Via Tactical Fanboy blog.............great vid, I recommend watching it for the update details...........

Kel-Tec Shotgun Updated Overview

March 7th, 2011



The KSG (Kel-Tec Shotgun) pulled a lot of buzz during SHOT Show, due to its 14+1 shotshell capacity and [semi] unique bullpup design. It also happens to be on my personal list of must have firearms for this year. This video shows some updates done to the design since SHOT, some good, some bad. For example, fixing the trigger reset was a big win. Cutouts on the magazine tubes as an ammo indicator; good in theory, but a potentially harmful entryway for dust and debris. Still, the KSG won’t be released until later this year, so it’s entirely possible that the design can be further refined by then. Even so, I still hate waiting for the newest futuristic-looking scattergun to finally be in my hands. Where’s Doc Brown and the DeLorean when you need ‘em?

Visit keltecweapons.com for more information on the KSG and other Kel-Tec firearms and products.

buglerbilly
25-03-11, 12:30 PM
A bit more on the Turkish shotgun....................via the Firearm Blog

UTS–15 Tactical Pump-Action Shotgun: Big and Badass

At the start of this year the only dual magazine shotgun I knew of was the almost mythical South African NEOSTEAD. In January Kel-Tec introduced the KSG bullpup Shotgun. Now Turkish firm UTAS has brought another mean-looking dual magazine pump-action shotgun to market.



Each of the UTS-15 magazines hold 7 rounds of 2.75" sized shot shells (it can also chamber 3" shells), giving it a 14+1 capacity. A selector allows the operator to select which magazine to feed or to automatically alternate between the magazines.



Note the shell counters along the length of the receiver.

The body of the gun is made from carbon fiber to save weight. The lower receiver has a built-in button operated laser and light. It also comes with iron sights mounted on the full length picatinny rail.



The shotgun has an overall length of 27" and weight of 7.2 lbs.



Unlike the Kel-Tec KSG, this gun is not being marketed to consumers, but to law enforcement and military. UTAS have acknowledged that they would not be able to export to consumers in the United States because it would not classify as a sporting gun by the BATFE.

buglerbilly
28-03-11, 10:37 AM
A bit of History wrt dual mag shotties..............via the Firearm Blog...................sorta looks like a Sterling machine pistol............sort of

Winter SWATriplex-18: The original dual magazine shotgun





I did not realize that the dual magazine bullpup shotgun concept goes as far back as the 1970s. John W. Winter produced a bullpup shotgun called the Winter SWATriplex-18 back in the late 70s. It could feed from either one, or both, of its 9 round magazines.

PT-The Italian Commie wrote at SecurityArms forum ...


Consortium W (Winter) SWATriplex-18 prototype 12-gauge semi-automatic combat shotgun

Designed in the late 1970s specifically as a combat shotgun by John W Winter, the SWATriplex-18 had a number of unusual features, some of which appeared in later shotguns. Unfortunately, the company which was supposed to manufacture the weapon (Consortium W), pulled out after only a few prototypes were built and Winter was never able to attract anyone else to manufacture, let alone buy his unusual shotgun.

The SWATriplex-18 used a semi-bullpup design using twin tubular magazines under a single barrel. Feed could be from one magazine at a time, or alternately between the right and left magazines. Operation was semiautomatic, using gas operation and something quite unusual in a shotgun, a telescoping bolt. Construction was with a combination of light alloys and steel (for the barrel and where strength was critical). The 22-inch barrel was surrounded by a shroud/handguard which was ventilated for cooling. The SWATriplex-18 has ejection ports on both sides of the weapon; each could be sealed, and this allowed use of the weapon by both left and right-handed shooters by simply reversing the ejection direction, charging handle, and cheek rest (something most designers of bullpup weapons seem to overlook). The SWATriplex-18 used rifle-type sights on raised stands; both were adjustable for elevation and windage by knobs. (The raised sights were thought of as a potential problem, and Winter reputedly was considering either removable sights or moving the sights down to the receiver itself.) The stock was of light alloy, but the butt was synthetic with a rubber recoil pad. The top of the receiver had a carrying handle which could be folded flat against the receiver if desired.

The SWATriplex-18 was most likely a design which was way ahead of its time; many companies thought it was simply too weird-looking to sell, despite its reliability and advanced features. This may have killed the SWATriplex-18 more than anything else. Unfortunately, even the prototypes seem to have disappeared, and examples of the weapon now exist only on paper. However, the SWATriplex-18 design can be credited of a modern spawning as can surely have been a source of inspiration for the South-African designers Tony Neophytou and Heyns Stead for their highly successful Truvelo NS-2000 "NeoStead" pump-action combat shotgun

I would not classify that the NeoStead as being highly successful. Does anyone know how many were produced and in what countries it was sold in?

[ Many thanks to Thaddeus for emailing me the link. ]

buglerbilly
08-04-11, 12:09 PM
Via Tactical Fanboy blog.................boys playing with toys

KSG In Action – Nutnfancy

April 7th, 2011



Here’s some footage of the Kel-Tec KSG in action in the “Eat Lead” course by Nutnfancy. To be specific, it’s a video demonstrating the strengths and weaknesses of the system, how it compares to a Winchester 1300 running the same course, and some pistol shooting thrown in for good measure. Also, the video’s pretty damn long, a little over 45 minutes, so only those with an abnormally large attention span will be able to sit through the whole thing without skipping around.

buglerbilly
11-04-11, 10:48 AM
Via Soldier Systems blog................Stubbies like this get knocked to the corner by the new Bullpups IMHO.....

Fabarm Martial Ultra Short 14″ Shotgun

Paolo spotted the FABARM Martial Ultra Short 14" SBS (short barreled shotgun) at the EXA 2011 gun expo in Italy. The pump-action shotgun fits five 3" 12 gauge rounds into its magazine that is just slightly shorter than the 14" barrel.





The heat shield is a nice touch.

[ Many thanks to Paolo for emailing me the photo. ]

buglerbilly
19-04-11, 06:08 AM
Via China Defense blog..............

Sunday, April 17, 2011

Per request, QBS09 18.4mm semi-automatic shotgun

Geared toward MOUT and can fire both military and civilian shells.

buglerbilly
24-04-11, 06:15 AM
This one is more Police than Military..............

Valtro PM5 12 Gauge Tactical Magazine Fed Shotgun

Andrew discovered that the Italian-made Valtro PM5 12 magazine-fed 12 gauge shotguns are once again going to be imported into the US.


Andrew reports on the Valtro PM5 from IWA '11

The Valtro PM5 was last imported about 10 years ago. They are, as Andrew says, basic. No fibre optic sights, fancy stocks or picatinny rails. They are reputed to be well made and reliable which is reflected by the high prices for which they are sold for on gun auction websites. The going price seems to be over $1000!

buglerbilly
26-04-11, 11:11 AM
A bit more on the Chinese gun...........via the Firearm Blog.........

China’s QBS 09 Semi-automatic Shotgun

Yesterday day I reported that StratergyPage.com said that the shotgun was out of favor with the Chinese military. This is not entirely correct. It is true that the the pump-action Type 97-1 is no longer in fashion, but instead of discarding the shotgun the Chinese have instead gone with the QBS 09 (Type 09) semi-automatic shotgun.



There is little information available, in english, on the QBS 09. We know from the name is was officially adopted in 2009. It is chambered in 18.4mm (12 gauge) and features a collapsable stock, click adjustable rear ghost sight, hooded front sight and a picatinny rail for optics. Other than the stock, which looks horribly uncomfortable for a 12 gauge gun, it looks to be a decent semi-auto.



China's adoption of an autoloader mirrors moves in the West where pump actions are being replaced by semi-automatics.





[ Many thanks to ragnarok220 for info. ]

[Hat Tip: China Defense and China.com ]

buglerbilly
13-05-11, 04:38 PM
The Turkish Bullpup shottie first time at one of the big Defence Tech shows..............I'd like to see a comparison shoot with the KELTEC KSG........More pics to follow later this weekend

IDEF 2011: New combat shotgun unveiled

May 13, 2011



Turkish firearms design company UTAS used the IDEF exhibition in Istanbul to unveil a new combat shotgun, which it claims addresses all the shortcomings of current products on the market.

The UTS-15, which features a magazine top-feed system and light-weight carbon fibre and polymer construction, weighs 3kg and is 71cm long and yet is capable of holding 15 rounds.

UTAS director of manufacturing and product development Ted Hatfield said the company had originally been approached by Smith & Wesson to develop a high-capacity, short, robust and yet simple to operate pump-action shotgun.

However, following the development of a prototype, the US firearms company pulled out of the project and UTAS decided to take it forward itself.

Designed for use by police and military forces during urban engagements, the shotgun features automatic alternating or selectable feed dual magazines, with quick loading ports, compressible magazine springs and shell counters. The company claims that the UTS-15 is the fastest loading shotgun ever designed.

Hatfield highlighted aspects of the design to Shephard, including a selector that allows each magazine to be selected, a collapsible follower that removes any pressure on the last round, and an action that loads the shell at the same speed regardless of how fast or slow the pumping action.

The shotgun also features a point-and-shoot spotlight and laser night sight as well as an integrated top-mounted picatenny rail for iron sights or optics.

Hatfield said the company was hoping to move into full production of the UTS-15 before the end of the month and was currently looking at tooling and manufacturing options in the US.

‘We have done hours of tests and fired thousands of rounds, and we are extremely happy with the design – the shotgun is capable, robust and simple to operate and maintain.’

Tony Skinner, Istanbul

buglerbilly
25-05-11, 12:32 PM
Via the Firearm Blog and Oleg Volk's blog...............

Kel-Tec KSG in OD Green

Photo by Oleg Volk ...


© Oleg Volk

The purty lady is Maggie...............

buglerbilly
27-05-11, 11:29 AM
Via the Firearm blog............

Mossberg 500 One-off Drug Enforcement Administration Special Edition



Mossberg put together a one-off special edition of the Mossberg 500 SPX engraved with the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) logo. The gun is being donated to a fundraiser to support their fallen agents

buglerbilly
01-06-11, 02:12 PM
M26 12-Gauge Modular Accessory Shotgun System (MASS)


Mission

Enhances Soldier effectiveness with lethal, less-than-lethal, and door-breaching capabilities with a 12-gauge accessory shotgun attachment that provides faster transition time between the primary weapon and shotgun.

The lightweight

M26 12-Gauge Modular Accessory Shotgun System (MASS) attaches to the M4 Carbine and zeroes to the host weapon. It is also designed to operate as a stand-alone system, and comes with a recoil-absorbing, collapsible buttstock. With a Picatinny rail on top, the receiver can be used to mount sighting equipment. The bolt handle is mountable on either side for ambidextrous handling. 

The MASS enables Soldiers to transition more quickly between lethal and less-than-lethal fires and adds the capability of a separate shotgun without carrying a second weapon. Additional features include a box magazine, flip-up sights, and an extendable stand-off device for door breaching. 


Caliber: 12 Gauge

Weight: 3.5 pounds (attached mode); 5.5 pounds (stand-alone)

Length: 16.5 inches (attached mode); 25 inches (stand-alone)

Effective Range: 25 meters


All rights reserved by PEOSoldier

Never been too sure of the sense of this one as an M4 attachment, it always looks out-of-balance...................as a stand-alone as in this pic? Hmmmmmmmmmm........................

buglerbilly
09-06-11, 11:05 AM
Via the Firearm blog.............

Beretta Tx4 Storm 12ga Tactical Shotgun

Beretta semi-auto shotguns are prized in the competition world, but don’t have the same presence in the “tactical shotgun” world alongside weapons such as the Remington 870 Police and Benelli’s Tactical series. Beretta is hoping to change that with the Tx4, a 12ga semi-auto with an 18″ hammer forged and chrome lined barrel, iron sights, and a top picatinny rail. Jarno of Beretta explains more in the video.


Beretta Tx4 Storm 12ga Tactical Shotgun


Uploaded by GunsForSaleDotCom on May 20, 2011
http://GunsForSale.com presents a look at the Beretta TX4 shotgun, as described by Beretta rep Jarno Antonelli. The TX4 is a 12 gauge semiautomatic shotgun with features that will appeal to tactical shooters.

buglerbilly
09-06-11, 11:57 AM
Short series of interesting videos of TROMIX-modified SAIGA 12Ga semi-auto shotguns utilising PROMAG 12 & 20 round drum magazines...........first with Suppressors fitted and then without..........a NOTICABLE difference BUT it ends up being a long gun again............still for CQB I'd prefer the suppressor fitted............



Uploaded by 0352slugomatic on Apr 7, 2010
Testing new 12ga. Suppressor on Tromix 8" with red stick suppressor

Next, firing slug rounds..............



Uploaded by 0352slugomatic on Apr 7, 2010
Test of different ammo in 12ga suppressor

Now the same gun without the Suppressor...............



Uploaded by 0352slugomatic on Mar 16, 2010
Shooting new 12 rd drum

A bit of a difference eh?

buglerbilly
21-06-11, 11:06 AM
Shooting the Kel-Tec KSG



Uploaded by shootingillustrated on Jun 16, 2011

Kel-Tec's KSG, a bullpup shotgun fed by two, seven-round magazine tubes, was the talk of the 2011 SHOT Show. See a short demonstration of how this compact 12-gauge shoots and the tube magazine switch.

buglerbilly
05-07-11, 02:45 PM
Via Soldier Systems blog................

BCS Shotgun Scabbard

July 5th, 2011

As the Mad Duo reported, members of the Breach-Bang-Clear evaluation team have been evaluating the BCS Tactical Shotgun Scabbard and Shot Shell Rig. We’ve finally finished, utilizing both pieces of kit in training, on the range and operationally. We’ll review the shotty scabbard first, as it is undoubtedly going to be the mostly widely appealing of the two (the chest rig being a particularly niche piece of kit, though no less useful for that.)



We liked the shotgun scabbard for potential tactical team and active shooter deployments, where a secondary or tertiary shotgun capability would be beneficial. It’s certainly a better option than slinging a twelve-gauge across the back, which hangs the muzzle out past the edge of the operator’s profile, putting it in the way of furniture, doorways, team members, etc.

We found the “standard”, unmodified scabbard was able to accommodate different large-frame shotguns (Remington 870 w/ 18” barrel, shoulder stock w/ pistol grip and 6-round sidesaddle for instance) without any issues. The stock on the 870 and the Mossberg 500 sat a little high, but a slightly shorter barreled weapon would have had no issues (and BCS advises they will modify an individual scabbard for specific weapons if needed).



The scabbard was easily donned and simple to adjust for the shoulders and waist size of several officers. The location of the bottom waist strap could be adjusted to fit the torso length of individual officers.

Drawing the shotgun was easily done, requiring just a slight shift of the scabbard closer to the body. Initially evaluators thought they’d have difficulty putting the weapon back into the scabbard but this was not the case. It was faster to have the assistance of a second officer in those cases when the evaluator was jocked up in heavy armor but not required.

In a couple of cases evaluating officers rearranged the outside pouches on their Level IV vests in order to make the scabbard ride more comfortably without binding, but did not suffer any problems with blockage once that was accomplished. Note: all evaluators wore drop-down thigh rigs for their primary handgun during the majority of testing. It was not evaluated with a traditional waist holster at any length, but all believed it could be worn alongside such a holster without difficulty.



Though the butt of the weapon rode just a little high for two evaluators’ preference, there were only a couple of suggestions made at the end of the trial period. The first was to ask for MOLLE/PALS on the back of the scabbard and the second for a wide strip of hook-and-loop centered between the top of the prybar webbing and the mouth of the scabbard. The former would allow for additional modularity, the latter would allow for a large POLICE or SHERIFF tape to be placed across the back in place of the one traditionally worn on the back of a uniform or external armor carrier. Most agreed they’d want to let BCS know in advance what sort of shotgun would be carried in a particular scabbard—though the “stock” version performed well, presumably it would be improved with some specificity.

Overall a sturdy, well-built and useful piece of kit.

Stand by for further traffic.

For more on BCS Tactical, visit them on the web at www.beezcombatsystems.com. Contact the Breach-Bang-Clear evaluation team at www.breachbangclear.com/site/evaluation-team or e-mail BreachBangClear@gmail.com.

-Breach-Bang-Clear Evaluation Team

buglerbilly
06-07-11, 11:29 AM
Via the Firearm blog..............

UTAS UTS-15 shotgun video

The UTAS UTS-15 shotgun holds 14 rounds in two side-by-side 7 round magazines. Unlike the Kel-Tec KSG, the shotgun is capable of feeding continuously from both magazines without manual intervention. The below video shows a 14 round magazine dump.




Turkish firearms design company UTAS used the IDEF exhibition in Istanbul to unveil a new combat shotgun, which it claims addresses all the shortcomings of current products on the market.

The UTS-15, which features a magazine top-feed system and light-weight carbon fibre and polymer construction, weighs 3kg and is 71cm long and yet is capable of holding 15 rounds.

UTAS director of manufacturing and product development Ted Hatfield said the company had originally been approached by Smith & Wesson to develop a high-capacity, short, robust and yet simple to operate pump-action shotgun.

However, following the development of a prototype, the US firearms company pulled out of the project and UTAS decided to take it forward itself.

Designed for use by police and military forces during urban engagements, the shotgun features automatic alternating or selectable feed dual magazines, with quick loading ports, compressible magazine springs and shell counters. The company claims that the UTS-15 is the fastest loading shotgun ever designed.

Hatfield highlighted aspects of the design to Shephard, including a selector that allows each magazine to be selected, a collapsible follower that removes any pressure on the last round, and an action that loads the shell at the same speed regardless of how fast or slow the pumping action.

The shotgun also features a point-and-shoot spotlight and laser night sight as well as an integrated top-mounted picatenny rail for iron sights or optics.

Hatfield said the company was hoping to move into full production of the UTS-15 before the end of the month and was currently looking at tooling and manufacturing options in the US.

We have done hours of tests and fired thousands of rounds, and we are extremely happy with the design the shotgun is capable, robust and simple to operate and maintain.

It is an interesting departure from blackpowder replicas and traditional side-by-side shotguns for gun designer Ted Hatfield.

Max Popenker took some time off from his vacation to visit the Turkish firearm manufacturer UTAS Makina, maker of the interesting UTAS UTS-15 bullpup shotgun. He has described the workings of the shotgun in detail at guns.ru.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/tr/shotgun-utas-uts-15-e.html

The shotgun will be available in the USA at some future date.

buglerbilly
01-08-11, 07:37 AM
Via Soldier Systems blog................

870 Modular Combat Shotgun

July 31st, 2011

Three different barrel lengths, three different stocks, customisable by User................



Remington just released this ad for the 870 Modular Combat Shotgun which features a user-configurable stock and barrel system. Check out the retention system. It’s made by Blade Tech specifically for the 870 MCS.

buglerbilly
09-08-11, 02:10 AM
Via the Firearm Blog...............

Remington Versa Max Tactical

Later this year Remington will be launching a tactical version of the Versa Max shotgun, which was originally introduced last year. This tactical model has many features desired by home defense, law enforcement, competition and military shooters which are lacking from the sporting models.



The most significant different between the sporting models and the tactical model is that the Versa Max Tactical will initially only be offered with a receiver capable of chambering 2.75" and 3" 12 gauge shotgun shells, whereas the sporting models also chambes 3.5" magnum 12 gauge shells. Remington may have made this decision to shave of the extra weight and costs added by the tactical features.

The Versa Max Tactical includes a picatinny rail for mounting optics and forward barrel-clamp side rails for mounting accessories, such as flashlights. The charging handle and magazine release are tactical-sized. The extended magazine holds 7+1 rounds of 2.75" shells. The barrel is 22" with vent rib and comes with an IC and Tactical (ported) choke. The stock is black synthetic with overmolded rubber grips.

The MSRP is $1,399 (the same as the synthetic sporting Versa Max model).

[ Many thanks to Woodroez for emailing me info about this gun. ]

buglerbilly
10-08-11, 02:51 AM
Via the Firearm blog............

ATI Talon Tactical Stock

ATI is now selling an adapter to mount an AR-15-compatible stock on a 12 gauge Mossberg (500, 535, 590, and 835), Remington (870) and Winchester (1200 and 1300) shotguns.





The Talon mounting system, including the pistol grip, has a low MSRP of MSRP of $44.99. With the 6-position stock pictured above it costs $134.99.

buglerbilly
17-08-11, 04:10 AM
Via the Firearm blog..............

Mossberg 500 Thunder Ranch Shotgun



Mossberg teamed up with Clint Smith, the President of the Thunder Ranch training facility in Oregon, to design the Mossberg 500 Thunder Ranch Shotgun.



Unlike many other special editions guns, a lot of thought appears to have gone into this shotgun. It features a shortened stock with a 12.75" length of pull (LOP) for maneuverability in a self defense situation. It includes a tri-rail on the fore-end for mounting accessories. The barrel is Mossberg's 18.5" Stand Off (breaching) barrel.



Specifications

Caliber - 12 gauge 3"

Capacity - 5+1

Barrel - 18.5" Stand Off

Stock - Syntheic Shortened (12.75" LOP)

Overall Length - 37"

Weight - 6.88 lbs

Front Sight - white dot

MSRP (Price) - $460

buglerbilly
27-08-11, 02:35 AM
Improved 12 Gauge Loadout: Original SOE

by The Mad Duo on August 26, 2011


12ga Pull-out pouch (see video to watch it deployed).

Anyone familiar with LBE knows there are eleventy-five different manufacturers of ammo pouches, mag shingles and other modular accessories for your rifle/carbine/pistol. One thing you don’t see nearly as frequently is an efficient way 12-gauge reloads. There are some shot shell chest rings out there and a few hook-and-loop pouches for your LBE Or war belt but few of them offer an easy way to access the heavy, varied load of 12ga some guys require.


12ga Pull-out tray.

John Willis of Original Special Operations Equipment (OSOE) – who will need no introduction to many Kit Up! readers – makes modular pieces that address this niche need. The first is the 12a pull-out tray; the second is the 12a pull-out pouch. Both allow quick access to your reloads and both protect the ammunition from the elements and whatever’s around you if you happen to be going prone or taking cover. If you don’t have that much room, they make an 8 round version that fits where one M4 mag does (or you can mount it with PALS).

http://www.originalsoegear.com/12tray.html

http://www.originalsoegear.com/pullout12.html

For those of you who speak in favor of the sidesaddle, speed-feed stock or bandolier, we would respond as follows. Love the sidesaddle, limited reload capability. Some people really groove on the speed-feed stock; our crew has found them to be problematic, and again it’s a very limited reload. Bandolier belts can be difficult to mount to a heavy vest that’s carrying a lot of other equipment and expose the ammunition to the elements (and they tend to come loose or get pushed up as you move or go prone). Bandolier slings are a no-go for our guys for a number of reasons, the first of which is the movement it generates in the weapon, the second is the tendency of rounds to get pushed loose or rattle loose if you have to move with any urgency. Note: we’re not arguing if that’s what you run, we’re just prefacing our subject matter (and we freely admit bandoliers look good in movies).


Example of a 12ga pull out tray in an M4 magazine pouch, secured.


Example of a 12ga pull out tray in an M4 magazine pouch, tray partially deployed.

The pull-out tray is just what it sounds like, a tray carrying 12-gauge rounds that will slide into any mag pouch capable of holding two M4/AR15 magazines (something you probably already have on your LBE). The standard pull-out tray holds 16 rounds, 8 to a side. You can tether it into the carrying pouch with 550 cord though the grommet in your pouch and the loop on the bottom of the tray. The pull-out pouch is the faster of the two for reloads and may be the better choice if you’re running different ammunition types (here’s a video of the 12ga pull out pouch explained its creator).

Lastly, if you don’t have a need for this sort of accessory, they make a hook and loop backed 12ga card in 5- or 6-round version that will slap onto anywhere you have already have Velcro.

One other thing we’ll be covering—an OSOE 12ga micro rig that’s awesome for an LE active shooter or home defense scenario. More on that soon.


Velcro-backed 12ga "cards" for any hook and loop surface.


John Willis at one of the machines in his shop. John still does the bulk of the sewing at OSOE, and thoroughly vets anyone who assists.

Read more: http://kitup.military.com/2011/08/improved-12-gauge-loadout-original-soe.html#ixzz1WBVJVELY
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buglerbilly
07-10-11, 12:16 PM
Via Soldier Systems blog............

Homemade Wax Slugs

Iraqveteran8888 demonstrates homemade wax slugs in the below video. To make these slugs you just buy some #8 target shot shells, remove the shot, mix the shot with wax and then pour back into the shotshell. They seem to hit accurate and hard.


Uploaded by Iraqveteran8888 on May 29, 2011
Poor Man's Glasers out of a shotgun. Cheap and effective way to make your own hard-hitting slugs.


Uploaded by Iraqveteran8888 on Jun 10, 2011
Video goes into a good bit of detail, but you'll learn everything you need to know about making deadly waxers for your scatter gun.

buglerbilly
01-11-11, 10:26 AM
Via the Firearm blog..............

SRM Arms 16 Round Semi-Automatic Shotgun

After I first wrote about the SRM Arms 1216 Shotgun over three years ago, it dropped off my radar. It has taken a while but the good news is that the gun is finally in production and on sale to the public.





The magazine is really four magazines in one. Each compartment holds up to 4 rounds, giving it a total capacity of 16 rounds. Once a magazine is empty, the operator must manually rotate it. I believe the bolt locks back when the magazine compartment is empty and automatically feeds a round when the magazine is rotated. The magazine is removable and cannot be reloaded after it has been inserted into the gun, like regular shotgun tube magazines. This video shows it in action ...



Uploaded by initialpointfirearms on Jul 8, 2011
This is a live fire demonstration of the SRM 1216 Tactical Shotgun. 3 magazines hold 48 rounds.

This is the SRM1212..............12 round happiness!



The gun is available in a three sizes with varying magazine capacity, but only the 16 round model is consumer-legal without NFA paperwork.



The biggest downside of this gun is the price. It is selling on gun broker for $2,800.

[ Many thanks to Cymond for emailing me the link. ]

buglerbilly
08-11-11, 10:05 AM
Via the Firearm blog..................

Derya Yeni Anakon Magazine Fed Shotgun



Turkish firm Derya Arms Industry have developed a nifty magazine fed semi-automatic shotgun called the Anakon.



The Anakon is a conversion of their conventional tube-fed semi-automatic shotgun and operates in almost the exact same way, feeding from a magazine forward of the bolt and ejecting downwards. It looks pretty bad-ass, but because it is supplied with just a 4 round magazine, it does not offer many advantages over a tube fed design.



This 12 gauge 3" magnum chambered gun features a full length top picatinny rail and short under-rail, flash hider, M16-style carry handle, forward post sight and either a M16-style fixed stock or M4-style adjustable stock. The barrel is 19.6" in length and the gun weighs 6.3 - 6.8 lbs depending on configuration.



If an American company imports this gun, replaces enough parts to make it 922r-compliment and offers a 7-round box magazine and a 20 round drum magazine, I think it would sell really well and make an excellent home defense shotgun.

buglerbilly
11-11-11, 02:43 AM
Via Soldier Systems blog............

Raven Concealment Systems ModuLoader

November 10th, 2011

Raven Concealment Systems has teamed up with Ares Gear to produce the ModuLoader which carries five 12 or 20 ga shells. It’s a two-part system, consisting of the ModuLoader platform (which mounts quickly and securely to your belt) and the tear-away load carriage module (which allows the user to rapidly replenish or reconfigure the platform to perform multiple functions). In addition, the entire system remains extremely concealable and comfortable by conforming to the body shape of the user. The ModuLoader platform is 7.5″ long and weighs just under 2 ounces.



Available in a variety of colors and comes with an unconditional guarantee. Made in USA!

www.RavenConcealment.com

buglerbilly
14-11-11, 06:10 AM
Roll Out with Extra 12-gauge: OSOE Micro Rig

by David Reeder on November 12, 2011

One the driving goals here is (as you should know) to inform, educate and entertain readers about gear. Bill recently wrote a piece on old becoming new. I’m going to follow up on that and talk


12 Gauge Micro on the range.

about the first time I was shown something that was truly far and away better than what I had been issued. Back then (I hate the term, but it’s true) we didn’t have Kit Up!There wasn’t a Soldier Systems Daily and there certainly wasn’t the awesome array of truly exceptional gear newer shooters have access to now, at least conventionally. I’m happy to report the company (well, the man) that made that singular piece of gear is still sewing today.

In 1999 I had the privilege of attending an Advanced SWAT School conducted by LAPD’s D Platoon, Metro Division (SWAT) at what was then SOTG range at Camp Pendleton. Over the course of 8 days I learned a lot (like the importance of networking and maintaining comms with the SWAT guys from LAPD, NYPD, DoE, etc. even years later), and was introduced to a couple of pieces of new and innovative equipment.

Much of what I learned was on the range, in the classroom or in the shoot-houses. (There were two at the time, by the way, though the walls of one were so thick the LA guys didn’t like to use it because it made the doorways unrealistic). Our chief instructor was Louis Villalobos (God keep him), who introduced me to an Irish guy (believe he was a sniper on there team at the time) he said had a “great handle on good kit”. Now, by Irish I mean really Irish, as in from Ireland, Faugh a ballagh and all that. Not just some guy with the surname, some shamrock tattoos and a bombastic love for St. Patrick’s Day. To my shame, I don’t remember the man’s name, nor why he was on their team (though for all I know he’s still there).

He told me, without hesitation, “Go find this little shop run by a guy named John Willis, over in Oceanside. His stuff is outstanding.” Some other guys nearby, including more than one of the instructors and a couple military guys (one from Force and one from one of the Teams), echoed the sentiment. I did as instructed and it was as good as they said. I bought a vest that day I’m still using today, as well as a rigger’s belt that has not only kept my pants up and kept me secure on the skids, it once towed my dad’s ¾ ton Ford pickup (bed filled with a huge load of pecans) for ten miles of dirt road in Vernon County MO. If it hadn’t burnt up in a truck fire I’d still be wearing it today.


12g Micro Rig on the firing load, shooter conducting fast reloads

John’s still working. The company is Original Special Operations Equipment. Back when I met him, it was just Special Operations Equipment (no, Original). Yes, there’s a story behind that, and yes I know guys either love him or hate him. He can be abrasive, no question. I’ve heard followed the drama, heard the rumors, seen the snarky sniping on forums and I don’t care, because none of that matters. What’s important is how well a piece of equipment works, whether the designer is a newly-canonized saint or an asshat. Same as what it looks like. I don’t care if it’s ugly as hell. Does it work, and will it hold up? Anyway, I personally had some of the later SOE gear (after John left) fail me operationally, so I was quite happy when OSOE stood back up. I won’t apologize for liking the guy even if he is blunt and terse (that’s one of the reasons I do like him), but I will suggest you judge the gear for yourself regardless of whatever you read on the interwebs.

OSOE has some very rugged mundane kit, but they have many ingenious pieces as well. One of them is designed specifically for guys that roll out fast with a shotgun; the 12-gauge micro rig. If you run a shotgun on patrol or for home defense, you should at least take a look. A couple months back the Mad Duo wrote up another of John’s 12-gauge shell solutions. This is a different animal.

Let’s be clear; this isn’t a full-blown, dedicated 12-gauge fighting platform and it’s not billed as such. It’s for the patrol officer with a shotgun sitting on a perimeter somewhere, or who has someone bail on him into the woods after a chase. It’s perfect for a response to an active shooter, or for the MP/SP/DoD cop carrying a 12-gauge at the gate shack.

Some exigent events will call for more than you have on your sidesaddle rig or in your belt shell caddy, and in many cases you have a minimum “garrison” load you’re required to carry (with no decent way to carry it). With this micro you can do that, and throw in an IFAK, some chem lights or an extra light for good measure. I don’t care for carrying shells in the sling, myself, having had problems with losing them and the movement it creates when it starts swaying back and forth, which doesn’t leave many really effective options past the few rounds in and on the gun or on my duty belt. I’ve been on the range with guys who ran a dump pouch filled with filled with 12-gauge shells but that has never really been an option for me (and probably not a realistic solution for day to day use anyway), though to be fair I’ve never been in a position where a shotgun was my primary. The 12-gauge micro fills the niche nicely.



Note: I’ve heard from a couple guys that this rig will hold 20-gauge shells just as securely. I haven’t tried it yet, but when I do I will advise. Also, a couple of my friends have the OSOE pull-out med tray and keep one of those and a smoke (grenade, not cigarette) in the utility pouch side by side. They tell me it fits perfectly, though again I haven’t tried that configuration myself.

The OSOE 12-gauge micro (there other types) attaches two pull-out trays to the face of the rig, with two inside pouches. This gives you immediate access to 12 rounds, and then 12 more with just a tug on the top loop (the trays separate and drop, though there is a tether you can choose to use). Essentially when you pull the interior tray out, the weight of the shells will drop it onto the hook and loop panel below, leaving you another 6 rounds ready. Adjacent to the two pouches and trays is a utility pouch (which will hold another 24+ 12-gauge shells, if you don’t use it for other accessories). The rig comes with adjustable shoulder straps or you can have them put a padded H-Harness on it (which would let you add a hydration bladder/carrier). Keep in mind also that the interior pouches will hold M4 mags, so you could actually run M4 mags inside and then a dozen shells for the ‘gauge outside.



One thing to be aware of. OSOE “triages” their orders, so to speak. Military personnel who are deployed or are preparing to deploy receive first priority, so factor that in if you decide to buy something.

Here’s one other thing I learned that summer. I’ll pass it along as a free ‘lessons learned’. Don’t try to keep up with the LAPD SWAT guys beer for beer at the end of a training day, even if they did run all the way back to VOQ from the SOTG range. It won’t end well.

Read more: http://kitup.military.com/2011/11/roll-out-with-extra-12-gauge-osoe-micro-rig.html#ixzz1deYRmvF7
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Comment from the designer/maker:

john willis · 14 hours ago

Tom--It was never meant for military use. We made the micro rigs for LE active shooter in mind. We offer the 12ga pull out tray pouches for other uses http://www.originalsoegear.com/pullout12.html We supply a lot of these to small military units.

We designed the spent mag pouch with several members from SOTG for carrying 12ga ammo for military application. Over a decade later we still sell a slightly u[updated version http://www.originalsoegear.com/dump.html

Whats do you like to use? How many rounds do you generally carry? What kind of sling are you using on your shotgun? What kind of shotgun?

Read more: http://kitup.military.com/2011/11/roll-out-with-extra-12-gauge-osoe-micro-rig.html#ixzz1deZdPrp8
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buglerbilly
25-11-11, 11:07 AM
Via the Firearm blog.............

Patent App For Bullpup Shotgun Conversion Kit

James Hunter, Hank Gevedon and Rex McDonald have applied for a patent (#20110283582) for a bullpup conversion kit for Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 pump action shotguns.




Cutaway with the shotgun action highlighted in red

Rex McDonald and Hank Gevedon own PD3, a Kentucky company dedicated to helping inventors bring their ideas to market.

buglerbilly
23-12-11, 06:25 AM
Via Soldier Systems blog......

Magpul Shotgun Accessories?

December 23rd, 2011

That’s right, Magpul is going to release their first parts for the ubiquitous 870. Look for an MOE Forend (not compatible with Sure Mag) and SGA Stock at SHOT Show in booth #20152.



The MOE Forend is a drop in replacement for the factory version and features extended length and front/rear hand stops. Since it’s MOE it’s compatible with current MOE rails, mounts, and accessories.



The SGA Stock features a spacer system for length of pull adjustment, improved grip ergonomics, recoil-reducing butt-pad, optional cheek risers for use with optics/raised sights, and other accessories.

www.magpul.com

buglerbilly
11-01-12, 02:13 AM
Production KSG............gun porn!

Production KSG runs 3″ shells, so its capacity is nominally 12+1. With 2.75″ shells it holds 14+1. This one has a muzzle set up for chokes, brakes, breaching stand-off devices. The light “dashes” on top of the magazine tube are witness holes for keeping track of the ammo supply.

buglerbilly
11-01-12, 10:17 AM
Via the Firearm blog.................

Raptor Grip (Birdshead) Grip for Mossberg 500



Shockwave technologies are selling a traditional "birdshead " grip for the Mossberg 500 shotgun. This is the type of one-handed grip favored before vertical pistol grips became popular. Not only does it looks cool, it is more practical (in my opinion).

It is being sold for $31.95.

http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=14

buglerbilly
11-01-12, 10:22 AM
Via the Firearm blog..............

BEAM LOKR Shotgun Flashlight Mount

I was pretty skeptical when I heard about the BEAM LOKR. It is a shotgun mount that attaches to a 12 gauge shotgun using only magnets. I did not think it could survive 12 gauge recoil, but it does. GunBlast produced a video review about the product and proved that it does what it claims ...


Uploaded by Gunblastdotcom on Jul 22, 2011
YouTube Exclusive! Jeff Quinn ( http://www.gunblast.com ) tests the BeamLokr Tactical Shotgun Flashlight Attachment.

For hunting this is perfect.

ADMk2
11-01-12, 01:56 PM
Production KSG............gun porn!

Production KSG runs 3″ shells, so its capacity is nominally 12+1. With 2.75″ shells it holds 14+1. This one has a muzzle set up for chokes, brakes, breaching stand-off devices. The light “dashes” on top of the magazine tube are witness holes for keeping track of the ammo supply.




Yes. That...

buglerbilly
11-01-12, 02:58 PM
Mine............get yer own!

buglerbilly
13-01-12, 10:29 AM
Couple of video's on the Keltec KSG............



Uploaded by guntruth on Nov 9, 2011
The rabbi reviews the Kel-Tec KSG for The Truth About Guns. Read more at http://wp.me/pOQae-kpf




Uploaded by guntruth on Dec 1, 2011
Read the full review of the Kel-Tec KSG at The Truth About Guns (http://wp.me/pOQae-lJh)

buglerbilly
16-01-12, 06:35 AM
Via the Firearm blog............

Kel-Tec KSG Short Barreled Law Enforcement / NFA Model

Kel-Tec are producing a short barreled shotgun (SHS) version of the Kel-Tec KSG . The KSG patrol has a 16.1" barrel (24" overall length) and the KSG Tactical has a 13.7" barrel (21.4" overall length). The shorter length decreases weight while improving maneuverability.



Because of the short barrel, they are Class III items regulated under the NFA.

I will be posted more photos of the Patrol and Tactical as soon as I can take them.

buglerbilly
18-01-12, 07:18 AM
Built-in flashlight is good, ammo capacity is good (11 rounds).............



Uploaded by BullpupForum on Jan 17, 2012

2012 SHOT Show booth interview about the KSG in the new shorter lengths...

buglerbilly
21-01-12, 02:01 AM
Via Soldier Systems blog............

Mossberg Flex System

January 20th, 2012

You can’t deny that the Mossberg 500/590 series of shotguns are popular for both tactical as well as recreational pursuits. At SHOT Show 2012, Mossberg unveiled their new flex system that allows 11 models of shotguns to interchange furniture. This allows the shooter to configure his shotgun for a variety of uses.



The key to the system is the Tool-less Locking System which consists of a series of three connectors to quickly swap out stocks, forends and recoil pads.



Both of these configurations are the same shotgun and the changes were made in less than a minute.

www.mossberg.com

buglerbilly
24-01-12, 01:21 AM
Via the Firearm blog...........

Benelli’s new civilian legal M4

If that title boggled your mind and you asked yourself, “didn’t they already sell the M4 to civilians?!” You would be correct. However the previous M4 model was considered an imported shotgun, and was therefore subject to 922r compliance. This meant that the gun was imported with a 5 round magazine, and a non-collapsable stock. To stay compliant you could either keep the stock with a magazine extension, or use the collapsing stock with the standard magazine tube. Stocks were also limited to LE purchases only.





Benelli has introduced a new model parts. But since it is rebuilt in the US it is considered an American made shotgun. It now includes a full length tube and sliding stock as standard items, and utilizes the Robar NP3 finish (similar to the Remington Maritime Models) for rust resistance. The finish is a mid-tone gray, and less silver than the photos indicate. Price will be 2300.00 for the complete gun.

buglerbilly
28-01-12, 03:04 AM
Via the Firearm blog...........

TX-12 Underbarrel Shotgun

Ten-X Tactical has developed a lightweight underbarrel shotgun for M4/AR-15 firearms. It can either attached to a underbarrel picatinny rail, or it can replace the bottom half of an M4 handguard.



7.5" barrel model



TX-12 with 10.5" barrel

buglerbilly
28-01-12, 09:58 AM
More on this shotgun here...........video report on the Outdoor Channel............interesting and simple system emminently suitable for door breaching tasks for military or LE use

http://outdoorchannel.com/Events/SHOT2012.aspx?tpid=2188648375&pid=gOg03C8nMjS0cNkzONXr5OXul_q_zlVc

TenXTactical's description here.............

http://tenxtactical.com/tx-12.html

buglerbilly
01-02-12, 11:35 AM
Via the Firearm blog.....................................

Izhmash Selling Guns to US Law Enforcement

I took some time by Izhmash has stopped claiming there exists a foreign conspiracy to put them out of business and instead engage in the booming firearms industry in this country. At SHOT Show they apparently sold a number of Saiga-12 shotguns to some police forces.



Ria reports ...


The contracts were signed at the Shot Show exhibition in Las Vegas on January 17-20. “The first Saiga-12 deliveries to U.S. law enforcement were already made in January 2012,” Izhmash General Director Maxim Kuzyuk said.

At the exhibition, Izhmash also signed an agreement on exclusive imports to the U.S. market with Russian Weapon Company and an agreement with Fime Group as Izhmash’s partner for manufacturing classic firearm models.

Shot Show also provided an opportunity for buyers from Central American countries to sign contracts on direct delivery of Izhmash sporting and hunting weapons for the first time. Previously they had only been able to buy Izhmash products via intermediaries in the U.S. "The results of the exhibition are inspiring. The American market in non-military weapons is booming. We project a 20 percent increase in deliveries this year," Kuzyuk said.

A few months ago I wrote an article entitled Could US Consumers save the Russian Firearms Industry?. The answer is "yes".

[ Many thanks to REMOV for emailing us the link. ]

buglerbilly
07-02-12, 11:22 AM
Via the Firearm blog...............

Chiappa T-Series 1887 Shotgun Pistol

You're not allowed to buy this shottie unless you ride a FatBoy Harley, screw everything female that will let you, and can say, in a heavy Austro-German accent, "I'll be Bach" or some other muse-oh wanker..........:rofl :rofl :rofl

Recent video games such as Call of Duty renewed interest in the oversized and impractical pistol-gripped 1887 Shotgun that was originally made popular by the second Terminator movie. Chiappa is cashing in on the pistol-gripped 1887-craze with the 1887 "T-Series". It features a rubberized pistol grip and an 18" barrel. Because of the long barrel it is legally a shotgun not a pistol.




The 1887 “T-Series” shotgun by Chiappa Firearms is a replication of the shotgun that has been immortalized in Sci-Fi thrillers and Video games. The “T-Series” is based on the Chiappa 1887 Lever action shotgun that is already known for speed and reliability in Cowboy Action competition, and a traditional favorite in the field, only now it is ready for a new era. The T-Series features all of the characteristics of the standard model, except with an 18.5” Barrel, matte black finish, and wood forearm and pistol grip that has a durable “Soft Touch” black rubber coating.



[ Many thanks to Jacob & Paolo for emailing us the link. ]

ADMk2
07-02-12, 03:06 PM
Via the Firearm blog...............

Chiappa T-Series 1887 Shotgun Pistol

You're not allowed to buy this shottie unless you ride a FatBoy Harley, screw everything female that will let you, and can say, in a heavy Austro-German accent, "I'll be Bach" or some other muse-oh wanker..........:rofl :rofl :rofl

Here's the greatest 9.5 minutes on youtube...