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buglerbilly
22-02-10, 09:41 PM
Building a Special Ops Minisub, on a Budget

By Nathan Hodge February 22, 2010 | 10:19 am



The Navy’s elite SEALs are good at a lot of things: infiltrating enemy ports, boarding hostile vessels, hostage rescue. Managing a complex acquisition program, not so much.

Such was the case with the Advanced Seal Delivery System (ASDS), an effort by the Navy and Special Operations Command to build a fleet of mini-subs that could piggyback on a larger submarine, and stealthily deliver SEAL teams to their objective, dry, rested and ready to fight.

After years of development, the program yielded only one prototype mini-sub, at the whopping cost of $885 million. Last year, the submersible caught fire while recharging its lithium-ion batteries at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii; faced with a massive repair bill, Special Operations Command decided not to repair the mini-sub.

Now the Navy is taking a look at another mini-sub, developed by a private firm, Submergence Group LLC. William Cole of the Honolulu Advertiser has the story of the company, which developed a new prototype, the S301, on its own dime. Development of the vessel took two years, and $10 million; after a successful demonstration, the Navy recently announced its intent to lease the S301 for another year.

http://www.submergence-group.com/index.php

As Cole points out, the S301 is not a military vessel, but the Navy can use it as a part of “risk reduction” effort for future submersible design. And it’s also a project the Pentagon, writ large, should take note of: Submergence Group was able to deliver a working prototype at a fraction of the cost it took defense behemoth Northrop Grumman to produce the first ASDS.



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McDethWivFries
23-02-10, 12:54 AM
Submergence Group was able to deliver a working prototype at a fraction of the cost it took defense behemoth Northrop Grumman to produce the first ASDS.

thats proberbly because they aren't thinking "how much money should we try and gouge on this?" . . . could also be because it isn't mil-spec which would have more stringent requirements yeah?

Chunder
23-02-10, 08:02 AM
thats proberbly because they aren't thinking "how much money should we try and gouge on this?" . . .


...the company, which developed a new prototype, the S301, on its own dime.

Gubler, A.
23-02-10, 10:11 AM
Another story with no reference to the details: those nasty things often known as facts. The S301 can be built so much cheaper than the ASDS because of the 10 years in technology development between them. Especially in battery tech. Remember those big mobile phones the size of bricks? The ASDS was designed with that kind of tech compared to what’s available now. Even worse the ASDS had to have its battery system technology changed mid stream as opposed to a fresh start. This is another problem for the ASDS: running a project generated by the political approval process in ‘advanced’ democracies compared to just going out and building it.